Je sais c’est hors sujet mais c'est la période alors soyons attentif.
Mon père a vérifié la guirlande électrique chez lui, elle a été achetée en France et a quelques années, il a donc vu qu'elle était alimentée en 220V sans transfo et sans sigle NF ou CE -> direction poubelle du coup.
Ça a mis une bonne piqûre de rappel à toute ma famille. Soyons vigilant.

voici copie du mail que je vais envoyer à Pacificled _ désolé il est bien évidemment en Anglais

Hello
I am the president of a non lucrative French marine tankkeeping association : francenanorecif and webmaster of its website : www.francenanorecif.fr
During the past week end, one of our member experienced a very serious accident due a light clamp bought from you during the first months of 2012 by Mr Nicolas Philibot (France-29). The fixture was re sold and bought as second-hand in my forum. At the first use this week end by the new owner, a noise was heard and the person was stuck to the lamp by the 220V voltage. By an extraordinary chance, he was able to move backwards, as a consequence, the adaptator fell on the ground and the socket went out of the plug. Nevertheless the person was brought in emergency to Hospital where he spent 24 hours and now has to undergo regular medical examinations.
As he quite used to manipulating electricity, he decided to try and find how the accident occured when back home.
So, the fixture is made in such a way that if you want to have full access to the electrical wires, you have to break and put it into definitively out of order, so that it is impossible one should pretend the fixture had been fixed before and the accident due to an after-sale manipulation. So, as he opened the fixture, he realized the double isolation was not going farther than the initial socket! Furthermore, when he drew the electrical wires from the flexible arm he was able to find solder points that had no reason to be there. These soldering points were protected by a thermic sheath of such a poor quality that holes had apperead within the sheath and electrical contact points made between the wires and the metallic flexible arm, and so the electrical shock was made possible.
At examination, that light clamp that was bought from your site not only proved to be non properly electrically isolated for use near water, all the more salted water, but the normal use that one awaits from such an item can be fatal at any moment without warning !
As these fixtures were quite widely bought for smaller tanks, they can be quite found with people. At the very moment I was told of the accident and quite sure about the source of the appliance, the news have been spread over to other French forums about a possible health danger. At the moment, it seems one other member owns such an older version of this fixture, as I have acknowledged that the orlder and now dangerous version has been stopped being sold. Nevertheless, we DO need to know the precise way to distinguish between older dangerous and newer safer versions of the fixture.
The quicker the information shall reach me, the quicker the information will be spread and accident avoided,and also sales will resume for you as I have made screen copies of this fixture being sold on your Ebayshop still this afternoon. My point is not to cause problems but to avoid lethal accidents to people.
You will be able to find explanative pictures of that examined clamp bought from you here (sorry, for this part, the forum is in French)

www.francenanorecif.fr/index.php?option=...00069&lang=fr#362919

At the moment, we can not see any particular sign on this appliance in cause that would help recognizing it : no cee label, no sign of any norm, nor any series number, nor any name or brand.
So please, give as many information you will be able to give.
Of course, I do not underline the fact that the new fixtures should be well examined so that any futher hazard should be taben nor any accident happen.
I am looking forward to receiving an answer from your sales service
Sincerely yours
Philippe Sanguinede
President Francenanorecif Association Loi 1901
Webmaster www.francenanorecif.fr

Merci à toi pour tout le boulot que tu fais pour ce forum et ses membres

+1 avec CIP: Rien à rajouter! Merci

de surcroit ai contacté 3 forums britanniques :
reefkeeping
marine fish tank
et Ultimatereef.com

j'espère qu'ils vont comprendre que cela peut etre sérieux

pour les remerciements, c'est gentil mais ca fait partie du package administrateur tel que je le concois. Côté papa poule

Le 11/12/2012, "LEDpacific" <Cette adresse e-mail est protégée contre les robots spammeurs. Vous devez activer le JavaScript pour la visualiser.> a écrit:

>Sir,
>
>We are very sorry to hear this. The first batch of lights were sold between
>25th December 2011 and Febuary 2012 and came with CE certification from the
>manufacturer.
>The design of the light has now been changed as we were not happy with the
>first batch.
>
>Lights sold after April 2012 will have been safety upgraded with 3A fuse,
>double insulation.
>
>We believe this first batch of lights were made at the same factory as the
>Boost clamp lamp which is still available and purchased by us. In our
>opinion the Boost version may not have been saftey upgraded to this day.
>
>Regards
>LEDpacific.com
>
>
>
>
>
>Thanks for your quick answer.
You do not seem to fully undertand my point and it is well past beyond your satisfaction.
Somebody went to hospital because of one of your product currently sold earlier this year, he could really have died!
The point is we need to know how to distinguish which fixtures can safely be used and which ones HAVE TO be discarded at once in order to avoid another accident, if not a death!
We need to know what can distinguish them apart from the date!
Please !
Sincerely yours
Philippe Sanguinede

C'est hallucinant, ils n'ont pas l'air de saisir la dangerosité de leur produit...

J'ai eu la réponse dans la nuit :

TOUTES LES LAMPES ACHETEES SUR PACIFICLED ENTRE LE 25 DECEMEBRE 2011 ET FEVRIER 2012 SONT CONCERNEES. VOUS DEVEZ EN ARRETER L USAGE ET LES FARE PARVENIR EN RETOUR A PACIFIC LED


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All clamp lamps purchased between 25th December 2011 and Febuary 2012 should
be returned to us asap. All people who purchased the lamp between these
dates have been contacted including 3 French customers.

Regards
LEDpacific.com

EN CAS DE DOUTE L INDICE QU ILS DONNENT : OUVRIR LA BOITE DE FIXATION A L EXTREMITE DE LA LAMPE? SI ON NE VOIT QU UNE SEULE SORTE DE CABLAGE, C EST CERTAINEMENT UN PRODUIT DE PREMIERE GENERATION A DEGAGER , SI ON VOIT UNE GAINE FLEXIBLE AUTOUR DU CABLAGE, IL S AGIT DE LA DEUXIEME GENERATION QUE L ON PEUT UTILISER;





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Simply open the bottom to check the wiring, if wiring is single insulation
likely 1st batch. If 2m flex first batch if around 1m flex cord 2nd batch!

Regards
LEDpacific.com


FAITES CIRCULER CETTE INFORMATION SVP

pacificled rappellent bien leurs produits !

www.ultimatereef.net/forums/showthread.php?t=605394

www.facebook.com/ledpacific

LED Pacific : Ok thanks, also note the BOOST clamp and other similar holders made at the same factory may not have the upgraded safety features our current design has.
il y a 4 heures · 1

LED Pacific : this recall effects just 11 UK customer and 4 French customers who purchased between these date. All have been emailed and written too. Thanks guys!

Dans le genre pas de cul ! Il n'y aurait que 15 ventes de ce produit depuis leurs boutiques, 11 en Angleterre et 4 en France
Il a fallu que ça tombe sur moi

Ils précisent que l'usine qui fabrique ces clamps fournit d'autres fournisseurs, restez sur vos gardes face à ces clamps !

rassure toi simon, je viens de recvoir un mail me demandant de contacter 5 personnes
dont Tulottes .....
je crois qu'il y a Deedoo et Benji75

et bien l'alerte a bien marché chez eux, c'est très bien et dans les forums anglais contactés hier soir.

Super suivi de leur part et idem pour FNR !!!

J'espère que tu vas mieux Simon ?

Merci pour le suivi.

Me concernant, j'avais acheté 3 clamps. 1 sur Led Pacific et les deux autres chez www.marinereefled.co.uk/index.htm (enfin de leur boutique ebay) et je ne retrouve pas les références de mes commandes

les 5 personnes que Pacificled m'avaient demandé hier soir de joindre, sont jointes, j'attends la réponse de 1 personne qui habite le nord.

pour l'histoire, suite au signalement hier, un admin du mforum marine fish UK a joué le jeu dès dimanche soir, il m'a dit qu'il avait joint le vendeur hier matin et effectivement il y a eu rappel de ces appareils.

Encore une fois, je ne peux que me féliciter de la bonne perméabilité du réseau social, et là même si cela n'a pas été évident, avec l'étranger.